Gerald Celente: We’re Heading Into the Worst Economic Collapse In Human History

Gerald Celente joins Mike Adams with critical warning: we’re heading into the worst economic collapse in human history – with HUNDREDS of banks set to go bust. The two cover a bunch of other key topics in this must-watch video – including a likely false-flag event to escalate war, the reasons for conflicts in the Ukraine and Israel, why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, and much more. (Summary and Transcript Below)

SUMMARY

• Celente’s Trends Journal has been warning about escalating Middle East conflicts, especially between Israel, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. Celente predicts oil prices spiking above $130/barrel if Israel-Iran hostilities worsen. Gold prices are also at record highs amid these tensions.

• Israel's bombing of the Iranian consulate in Syria is seen as a dangerous provocation that violates conventions. Celente believes Israeli PM Netanyahu is pushing the country to war to distract from domestic unrest over his controversial judicial reforms.

• While many Israelis protest Netanyahu's policies, Celente notes most still support military action. He is critical of Israeli land grabs from Palestinians, dismissing religious justifications as violations of international law. Overall, Celente sees Israel's current leadership making a bad regional situation even worse.

• Celente is critical of Jared Kushner's recent comments about relocating Palestinians to the desert to make way for valuable beachfront property in Gaza. He notes Kushner's close ties to Netanyahu and Trump's pardon of Kushner's father.

• Celente warns we are in the most dangerous times of our lives and people need to prepare. He predicts a coming banking crisis that few are talking about in detail.

• Gold prices are skyrocketing and Celente believes they could easily double, driven by factors like global inflation, China's increased gold buying, and the U.S. government propping up the economy before the election. He says if Bitcoin didn't exist, gold would be even higher.

• Celente gives historical examples of how wars have been used to distract from economic troubles, like 9/11 after the dot-com bust and provocations against Japan before WWII. He sees parallels with recent events like the Moscow theater attack and Israel bombing Syria.

• Celente has long warned about the risk of World War III, citing a 2014 Trends Journal article about U.S. meddling in Ukraine.

• The two lament how uninformed many Americans are about these serious issues compared to pop culture and political theater. Celente believes those who don't heed warnings and prepare risk losing everything in an unprecedented economic collapse.

• Celente warns that a nuclear war would be the end of life on Earth, quoting Einstein's famous saying about WWIV being fought with sticks and stones.

• Celente quotes JFK's 1963 speech about the devastating human toll of WWII on Russia and the existential threat of nuclear war. JFK advocated peace but was assassinated shortly after.

• Regarding the Ukraine war, Celente expects a false flag event to escalate the conflict, having predicted from the start that Ukraine could not defeat Russia militarily. He sees this as part of the dangerous slide into World War III.

• Celente is harshly critical of European leaders like Macron, Scholz and Sunak, calling them out of touch “imbeciles” and “narcissistic freaks” with abysmal approval ratings yet still ramping up war rhetoric.

• A key prediction is a coming wave of bank failures, with hundreds of banks at risk due to trillions in bad commercial real estate debt as office occupancy rates plummet. Celente expects no government bailouts this time.

• He warns that retail gold and silver supplies could quickly disappear as people panic during this banking crisis, potentially doubling prices. This reflects a broader economic decline as cities empty out and crime soars.

• Adams emphasizes the importance of coming out of these dark times with one's sanity and assets intact by staying well-informed through resources like Trends Journal. Celente agrees but stresses the even greater need to unite for peace and prevent the unfolding of World War III.

• Celente quotes Samuel Adams on the power of a tireless minority to effect change and calls on the “irate minority” to embody the true American spirit. His advice for navigating the challenges ahead includes being in the best physical, emotional and spiritual shape possible and doing something positive each day to help others.

TRANSCRIPT

Mike Adams:
Welcome to today’s interview on Brighteon.com. I’m Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteron. And hey guys show the texas flag again. We finally have the texas flag all lit up properly here to pay due respect to the wonderful state of Texas. I am so proud to be a Texan, and Texas, I think, is going to represent the resurgence of economic abundance for our nation.

Now, speaking of economic abundance, our guest today is an incredibly knowledgeable and very dear person, very special person. It's Gerald Celente, and I want to say before I bring him on that I deeply admire Gerald's commitment to not only the ideals upon which America was founded, but also Gerald, he's an advocate of the arts and the culture, and he buys historic buildings and he actively works to preserve the very things that made America what it once was and that is now being lost. But it's guys like Gerald Celente that I'm proud to call a fellow American. So welcome to the show today. It's an honor to have you on.

Gerald Celente:
Thank you, and I appreciate so much what you do and over the years, and so thank you so much. But as for loving Texas, once upon a time, as a Napolitano born in the Bronx 1946 right after the war, wants to be free, boy, New York City was my kind of town, but not anymore. This whole state's turned to crap. It breaks my heart. It breaks my heart.

Mike Adams:
It breaks my heart as well. I know, I know what you feel, Gerald, because listening to you talk about what has been lost, what could have been, this could have remained the greatest nation in the world. New York could have remained the economic epicenter of this continent, and it's been thrown away by lunatics.

Gerald Celente:
Perfectly said. You know, they just had April Fools' Day. Guess what? Every day is April Fools' Day. We got a bunch of fools, them morons and imbeciles called politicians and government, running and ruining our lives. It's just a disgrace. It breaks my heart to see the decline of this country. As I said, I'm so proud to be a Napolitano born in the Bronx, born to be free. As I say, if I was born about the Filipina Thika Queens, I couldn't be me. That was the American that I grew up in, and now you better obey what I tell you. I'm your governor. I'm your little mayor. I'm Warren Wilhelm Jr. Oh no, I'm changing my name to Bill de Blasio. That was my mother's name. I'll get the Italian American votes. I'll tell you what they do: close down your business, get out of school, go home. I’ll tell you what to do. I'm your governor. I'm your mayor. I'm your president. You live in America, the democracy that slaughters people all over the world, selling out the BS that we're bringing freedom and liberty to these countries as they steal it from us right in front of our eyes.

Mike Adams:
I want to get your comments on what New York City mayor Eric Adams is doing right now. So on one hand, he says that New York City is going to be overrun and destroyed by illegals. And just for the record, you know, you and I are not opposed to legal immigration. We welcome legal immigrants. I'm married to a legal immigrant, by the way. But the illegals are overrunning the city, and then on the other hand, Mayor Adams there, no relation by the way in case anyone was wondering, Mayor Adams there is saying, “Hey, let's hand out tens of millions of dollars to the illegals with these debit cards.” What is this?

Gerald Celente:
I said it's April Fools' Day. You have fools in charge. Do you ask an idiot why they're an idiot? Do you ask an arrogant little piece of scum why they're arrogant pieces of scum? Do you ask a murderer why they're murderers? This guy's a little nobody with a bad attitude, a little nothing, just like all of them.

Which one do you like the best? One little clown after another. Again, you know, by the way, some little bit of my background. When I got out of graduate school, I didn't really want to work, and something, my mother passed away, and I needed to take care of my younger sisters and my father. So I moved back to Yonkers where the family was living. So what am I going to do? So I got involved in political campaigns. I was working on major political campaigns in Westchester County, the richest county in America back in the early '70s.
They were grooming me. I was the assistant to the secretary of the New York State Senate at 26 years old. This is the cat running the whole organization.

When I quit, none of my friends could believe it. My good friend, may he rest in peace, Brian Donahue, his wife became lieutenant governor under Pataki. They couldn't believe I was going to quit. “I’m not going to take this?” I said, “I'm watching grown men grovel to suck their way up to the top.”

As young guys, you're hanging out in the back of the chamber, you're talking about girls, cars, sports, and you got this guy, Senator Frank Jones! Senator Thompson! What's the matter with this guy, opening the door for these people? What's this garbage? And then my friends would leave me, follow the senator to their seat, and you could blow on these seats and they move, and they pull out the chair and help them sit down. I said, “Hey, man, what's the matter? Cat can't sit down by yourself and get some help?” “No, Gerald, you have that kind of an attitude, you're not going to make it here.”

I'm mentioning this because I've been on the other side. Yeah, this is me at 30 years old. I was the number two guy running a major trade association, picking up Ronald Reagan at the Chicago Hilton. He spoke after our trade show, and I put on a brunch with him, sixteen of our board of directors, two days before he announced he's running against Gerald Ford for the nomination in 1976. I've been with presidents, prime ministers, and princes. I've been on the other side. I wouldn't know what I know if I wasn't on the other side. Right. It's a freak show. You got gutless little boys and girls running the show.

Once upon a time, there was a president by the name of Dwight D. Eisenhower, five-star general, Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, the same guy that warned us about the military-industrial complex robbing the nation, the genius scientist, sweated labor and the future of the children. Yeah, that Eisenhower. Look up the quote: “Any man seeking the office of president is either an egomaniac or crazy.”

Mike Adams:
That's right. Yeah, exactly. It's extraordinary what you've seen, and the fact that you can package this wisdom and insight into what you do now, because let's talk about the practical things of how you help people with your journal, Trends Journal, the website, TrendsJournal.com. And I know we've got a special announcement to share in a minute, but I just want to acknowledge here that through your Trends Journal, you analyze what's going on in the world, and you help digest it into actionable items for people. Talk about the Trends Journal for a minute.

Gerald Celente:
It's the only magazine in the world that gives you in-depth geopolitical, socioeconomic, high-tech, science, AI trends analysis and trend forecasts. So what we do is we report what is quote “being reported,” then we give our trends analysis. This is the way we see it. So, you know, there's no propaganda in it. And then we give you our trend forecast. This is where we see it going. And I'm a political atheist.

Quickly, I would, I was, again, I told you I was the number two guy running a major trade association, and I was living between DC and Chicago. The Iranian war starts breaking out. Jimmy Carter came back from Iran on New Year's Eve with Shah and his wife. This has to do with what we trend forecasting and how I became a trend forecaster. And matter of fact, it's in his book, one of my books, “Trend Tracking: Father of the Megatrends,” Time magazine.

He comes back and says that the Shah is the island of stability in the Middle East. That's the quote. In the Bronx, we used to say “bullshit has its own sound,” and people didn't know about the United States' overthrow of Mosaddegh, the president of Iran, back in 1953, brought to you by the CIA and the MI6. Matter of fact, it was only reported in the Financial Times in 2017 when they actually finally released the information about how Winston Churchill and Kermit Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt's great grandson, we're in charge. He's with the CIA that overthrew them. Millions of people were taking to the streets. The people forgot that when they brought the Shah in, the SAVAK, the secret police, made the SS look good. They were slaughtering people. So when the protests began, I said, “Oh, this thing is for real. Millions of people are going to be, we're taking to the streets.” And all they asked was, “America, get out of here. We don't want you here anymore.” “We're not going to leave.” “You're going to tell us to leave?” And that's when the whole thing broke apart.

Anyway, I said to myself, as everybody's learning to hate Iran, what would be the implications? And I said that gold and oil prices would go up. This is 19-, I'm 32 years old, 1978. I made two $5,000 bets playing the futures markets. I didn't know what I was doing.

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Mike Adams:
That’s a pretty good chunk of change in the '70s.

Gerald Celente:
I turned it into almost three-quarters of a million dollars. And that's when I quit my job. So that's trend forecasting, looking at things the way they are, not the way you want them to be.

So now we'll go back to 1978. Let's go to 2024. Go to your Trends Journal. Week after week after week after week after week after week after week, we said, oh, one of our top trends for 2023 was “Middle East Meltdown,” and we warned that it was going to explode. And here we are.

So we've been warning that Israel is going to ramp up the war, not that they may, and that they're going to escalate their attacks against Syria, Lebanon, and Iran. Oh, what happened? They just slaughtered like several Iranians and about a dozen Syrians.

Mike Adams:
I think it was eight Iranians and many, many top officials. The head of the Hezbollah group or not the Hezbollah, but the head of the IRGC that liaises with Hezbollah.

Gerald Celente:
And what did they do? They blow up a consulate.

Mike Adams:
Yes, which is on the consulate grounds.

Gerald Celente:
And a couple of days before, they killed 52 people in Syria – Israel. And they've been bombing more and deeper into Lebanon. So now we kept saying, as this escalates, you're going to see the price of oil go, Brent crude go up. Brent crude was trading near the $70 a barrel level not too long ago. Now it's near $90 a barrel. When the military escalation increases between Israel and Iran, you're going to see oil prices spike to above $130 a barrel. Goes back to trend forecasting. We also said, as these Iran war and Ukraine war keep heating up, you're going to see gold prices go way up.

Mike Adams:
And here they are, record highs, it’s at $2,250-plus.

Gerald Celente:
$2,270, $2,280. Yeah. And what's one of our top trends for 2024 that came out on January 3rd? “A Golden Year for Gold.” It's right there.

Mike Adams:
I want to ask you, Gerald, about this escalation that Israel just committed by bombing the consulate building on the embassy grounds there in Damascus. OK, so it's in Syria, but it's Iranian territory because it's the Iranian embassy and the consulate. Even Russia spoke out against this. Basically, this is insane. This violates conventions. This violates the rules of war. What is Israel trying to do with this?

Gerald Celente:
When all else fails, they take you to war. People have, again, tracking trends is the understanding of where we are and how we got here to see where you're going. So let's go back again. How we got here, let's go back to December 2022. Netanyahu gets elected as prime minister, not my language, but from the mainstream media. Again, we report what they're reporting, then we give our trends analysis and trend forecasts. Extreme right-wing government. Week after week, from 2022 end of December, all through 2023, Israel was committing atrocities week after week after week against the Palestinians with this extreme right-wing government. Then Hamas attacks on October 7th, 2023.

Also, during that time, from January 2023 to October 7th, 2023, Netanyahu tried to push through a judicial reform act, which basically said, “We're doing away with the courts, and the politicians are in charge.” Week after week after week, facts, 39 weeks in a row, tens of thousands of people were protesting in Israel against what Netanyahu was doing. Not my language, but the language from the president of Israel, Isaac Herzog.

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When this is going on, the demonstrations, Israel is quote “in a civil war” – a civil war. Hamas attacks. Everybody forgot about what I just said. When all else fails, they take you to war.

You go back to October 7th, and again, we write the facts as they're being reported. Two days after this happened, after Hamas attacked, there were articles that came out that both the United States and Egypt had warned Israel that this was going to happen. And more and more information is coming out to say they knew taht this is going to happen. They let it happen. When all else fails, they take you to war.

Mike Adams:
That's right… I'm sorry to interrupt. You saw this is coming. The warning signs were there. Even many Israelis saw this coming, and they tried to stop the Netanyahu takeover of Israel. I find it interesting that now many Israelis are protesting yet again, now, just recently, against Netanyahu. And many Jews all around the world are strongly protesting Netanyahu's policies because I think, I'd like your take on this, but I think they realize that if Netanyahu is not removed from power, he threatens the very existence of Israel because he is making so many enemies around the world. Some of those enemies have the means to destroy Israel, and if he isn't stopped, then Israel may not survive. Is that an accurate assessment?

Gerald Celente:
To an extent, because when you look at the polls coming out of Israel, they can't stand Netanyahu, but they support the war. And then when you look at the people that will take his place, they support the war as well. But then there's the other element of Jewish people, like Jewish Voice for Peace, like Norman Finkelstein, like Max Blumenthal, that come out with the facts that they are totally opposed to what Israel is doing. So there is that minority that are against it. But the people of Israel, again, it's not going to, by the way, since October 7th, Israel has stolen nearly 7,000 acres of Palestinian land.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, it never stops.

Gerald Celente:
And they use this baloney. I mentioned this guy Isaac Herzog. “Oh, they could steal land. You know why? God gave us this land.” Which I would say to him, man to man, “F you. Who are you talking to, what if I don't believe in your God? Could you handle that? And don't give me this crap about God. I know it's in the book of chapter six, section eight. What are you talking about? This is in violation of the Geneva Convention and Article 242 of the United Nations.” So they keep stealing the land. They're making a very bad situation worse.

Gerald Celente:
Oh, and don't, again, what did we hear out of Jared Kushner's mouth recently, the president, Trump's son-in-law.

Mike Adams:
Oh, yeah, the valuable real estate, the beachfront real estate in Gaza,” right?

Gerald Celente:
Right.

Mike Adams:
It's unbelievable.

Gerald Celente:
Yeah. “It's very unfortunate,” he goes on to say what's happening. Unfortunate, the genocide in front of everybody's eyes by the definition. Unfortunate. Oh, and then, “We could move the people out of there and put them into the desert.”

Mike Adams:
Yeah. Well, Netanyahu said something similar. He said, “Well, they can move. They can just pick up their tents and move.” I mean, the arrogance.

Gerald Celente:
And you know, when Netanyahu came to America a number of times, he stayed with Kushner’s father – at his house. And Kushner's father was sent to jail for things that he did, and Trump pardoned him. And Kushner gave a million dollars to his campaign. It's a crime syndicate running the country.

So you're asking me before about why people are doing this. You don't ask a murderer why they're murderers, narcissistic, arrogant freaks, why they're narcissistic, arrogant freaks. They are in charge of the world. Take a look. You like the little (??) Macron? I mean, what about Sunac over there?

Mike Adams:
I'm going to ask you about Macron here shortly, but let me mention Trends Journal and the fact that you are applying your knowledge here and also, I think, your courage to tell the truth, your courage to ask the big questions as you're demonstrating here today. And that's what makes Trends Journal special. I'm happy to announce today that you're partnering with us. We have a discount code for our listeners who want to subscribe to Trends Journal. Use discount code “Ranger.” It's very, very simple, like “Health Ranger.” Just go to trendsjournal.com, subscribe, use the code “Ranger,” and you'll get 10% off the Trends Journal.

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And we, as an affiliate, we earn a little something as well, so it helps support us as well as supporting Gerald Celente's work. But there it is, trendsjournal.com. When you subscribe, which is right here, click “Subscribe” and use discount code “Ranger,” and you'll save 10% now. And thank you, Gerald. I'm really honored to be partnering with you because I know the value of what you're putting out there. You have a track record of seeing what's coming through analysis, not prophecy or anything spooky or weird. You're just looking at the data, the facts, and your experience in the world, and you can tell people in some pretty detailed strokes what is about to happen. You've been right again and again and again. So thank you for Trends Journal.

Gerald Celente:
Thank you again. It's only costing about $2.50 a week, a lousy cup of coffee a day. I have to tell you, I've never worked harder in my life. Trends Journal used to be a quarterly, then it went to a monthly, and now it's a weekly, and it's over 170 pages. And you could listen to it, by the way. It's in different languages, and you read what you want. You know, it's a magazine, so we're doing everything we can to give people history before it happens. Because we are – I've been at this 44 years now – we're in the most dangerous times of our lifetime. And people better do all they can to prepare for the worst and prevail and prosper, because we're in a situation now that's never existed before. And when you want to talk about – when you're ready to – the economic front and going back to why gold is going to be one of the big ones. We're going to have a banking crisis. It's one of our top trends in 2024 that barely no one is talking about in detail.

Mike Adams:
I do want to talk about that. I was just checking gold prices while you were mentioning that. You're right, $2,270, almost $2,274. I mean, gold, for those watching – look, gold is up, I think in four years, it's up like 48%. In just four months, it's up something like 20%. These are rough numbers. It's not the exact math, but gold is now skyrocketing. You called it, Gerald. You saw it coming, and you know that it's not going to stop here because the dollar is being devalued and because of what's happening. So give us your take on where gold may be going.

Gerald Celente:
Gold – first of all, gold would be a lot higher if there wasn't Bitcoin. And by the way, I gamble with Bitcoin. I started gambling in it at $17,000, and now it's around $65,000. But to me, that's a gamble. But here's why: If Bitcoin didn't exist, gold prices would be double what they are. But again, you have to put it all together. It's not what you like, what you want, or what you wish for.

Argentina, you have an inflation rate of about 250%. Turkey, 70%. So the people all around the world are watching the value of their currency decline. The average person can't buy gold in a lot of countries. So what they're doing is they're buying digital currencies. That's driving that up. Now, let's go to gold. This is very simple. We're in the run-up to the presidential reality show – excuse me, the presidential election. And every time, ruling parties end, they do everything they can to boost up the economy. The old line to the Clinton campaign back in 1992 behind the scenes, “It's the economy, stupid.” That's what the people are interested in the most. They're going to do everything they can to prop up the economy in the run-up to the election to keep the party in power in power. Why?

Who's our Treasury Secretary? As we say in Italian, … Janet Yellen. What was her last job? Oh, she was the Fed head. Wait a minute. You mean the former Fed head is now our Treasury Secretary? Yeah. What's the matter with you? Don't you see who's running the country? But by the way, this is one of the Trends Journal covers back in 2011. Nothing has changed.

Mike Adams:
Christ beating the money changers. Is that what that is?

Gerald Celente:
That's the Goldman Sachs gang, the Merrill Lynch mob, you know, JP Morgan Chase, you know, nothing changed. They’re going to do everything they can. It goes back to gold. The lower interest rates go, the deeper the dollar falls. The dollar – the death of the dollar has begun. It's only artificially propped up because of high interest rates. As interest rates go down, the dollar goes down, gold prices go up. Because also, gold is dollar-based. So as the dollar gets cheaper, it's cheaper for other countries to buy more gold.

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And look at the facts. China record year buying gold – the country. Central banks, record year buying gold last year. And it's breaking a new record this year. Go back to China. The people in China see the devastation that was committed by three years of zero-COVID policy that destroyed the economy. So what are they doing? Buying gold. This year already, retail sales of gold have gone up in China 24%.

So it's the lower the dollar goes, the higher gold prices go. And again, putting it all together, oh, what's our debt? Around $35 trillion approaching. It's only increasing a trillion dollars every hundred days. And that's only for now. Soon it'll be a trillion every two months. That's where it's headed. So gold is – gold, it could easily double in prices.

Because again, as World War III has begun, it's going to again – as I keep saying, when all else fails, they take you to war. You don't have to believe me. You look at the facts. You go back – this is one of our Trends Journals when it used to be a quarterly, and this is 1999. Front page story: “Dot-com this. Dot-com Overload Will Short-Circuit High Expectations for Huge Profits in Internet Commerce, Entertainment, and a Wide Array of Dot-com Services. Following the Holiday Season, Many of Today's High-Flying Internet Stocks, the Hottest IPOs, and Newly Emerging IPO Wannabes Will Have Begun Their Deep Descent from Their Overvalued Heights.” We warned that would happen by the second quarter of 2000. It did.

Mike Adams:
And you also called out the subprime mortgage collapse before it happened as well.

Gerald Celente:
Yeah, we took out the domain name “The Panic of '08” back in 2007. So let's go back to this. What happened when the dot-com bust – oh, America's going deep into recession. Everybody hates little Georgie Bush, the daddy's boy, born on third base and thought he had a home run, with a brain smaller than a pea and a thing about this big. 9/11 happens. Everybody forgot about the dot-com bust. Everybody forgot about it. And then they had the fake real estate market with the subprime mortgages.

Let's go back to World War II. You don't have to believe me. Go to the mainstream media. “History Today.” Type in Google “Franklin Roosevelt Seizes Japanese Assets.” Oh, comes right up. In July of 1941. July. When did – when did they bomb Pearl Harbor? In December. Okay. In July 1941, Franklin Roosevelt – excuse me, thank you. Remember, the Great Depression is going on, right? The Great Depression. Seizes all Japanese assets in July 1941 because those dirty Japanese, you know what they did? They invaded French Indochina. Wait a minute. French Indochina? What the hell are the French doing in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia? Oh, you mean they’re stealing all their tin, rubber, rape, pillage, and robbing everything they can. Why – how dare those dirty Japanese go in there and take what the French stole first?

Then the United Kingdom – you know, “The sun never sets on the British Empire” – those slaughtering people. And the Dutch – what are the Dutch doing in Indonesia? Stealing and robbing and pillaging there. They put sanctions, along with the United States, on Japan that cut off – this is right in “History Today” – three-quarters of their trade, including energy. 88% of their imported oil. They only import 100%. Can't understand why they bombed Pearl Harbor.

What I'm saying – what I'm saying is World War III has begun, Mike. They're going to use a false flag event to get the people to rally around it, just like they did with 9/11. “We're going to get that guy, Osama bin Laden, dead or alive!” 88% of the people swallowed the crap spewing out of the mouth of that little jerky nobody, little Georgie Bush.

Mike Adams:
But this reminds me of exactly what's happening. I'm so glad you brought this up. Because when you look at the terror attack at the Crocus Theater in Moscow, clearly Western forces had a hand in that. That was not ISIS. Okay?

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That's a BS explanation. But the same thing with Israel bombing the consulate building in Damascus, right? The West supported that. Those are probably U.S. missiles that struck the consulate building. So these are provocations, just like we provoked Japan in World War II with the energy embargo that put them in a do-or-die situation. You can see the provocations against Russia. It's like whoever's managing Joe Biden wants Russia to launch the first nuke so that they can justify World War III and maybe canceling elections and who knows what else. It's the same picture.

Gerald Celente:
Yep. This is Trends Journal from December, excuse me, spring 2014. See how happy that guy is? Washington is driving the world to the final war. You ready? “Ukraine presented the perfect opportunity for Washington to advance it’s hegemonic agenda. In a speech at the National Press Club last December (meaning 2013), Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland boasted that Washington had invested $5 billion in non-governmental organizations (NGOs) in Ukraine to teach democracy.”

Mike Adams:
Yeah, she was running a coup, right?

Gerald Celente:
That was written by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts. So people again forget how we got here.

Mike Adams:
That’s right.

Gerald Celente:
They have no idea. The United States overthrew – by the way, you know why they overthrew them? Not my language, but from the European Union, that Ukraine is the most corrupt nation in Europe. And the latest poll that came out from Ukraine, 89% of the people are concerned about corruption. That's the number two issue. The war is number one.

Mike Adams:
Wow!

Gerald Celente:
What happened was the place has been busted, you know, since the breakup of the Soviet Union and they needed money. They were going to make a deal with the IMF and the EU. Is it the International Mafia Federation? Oh, Monetary Fund. And Putin said, “I got a better deal for you. I'm going to give you lower interest rates, and I'm going to cut back the price of your oil and gas.” “Okay, we'll go with you.” “No, you won't.” And that was the overthrow of the government. So again, people have no idea how we got here. They have, you know – but as I said, I appreciate being on with you, but we haven't mentioned anything about Taylor Swift.

Mike Adams: Right, and we probably won't.

Gerald Celente:
But I'm saying, that's what the American people know about. They don't know what's going on. They're going to buy the lie. They're going to support it.

Mike Adams:
I don't know anything about Taylor Swift except that she's a singer. I know more about Victoria Nuland than I will ever know about Taylor Swift. And I wish I could erase my memory of Victoria Nuland from my mind because it's the haunting, horrible image. She has done so much damage to this world.

Gerald Celente:
Again, you ask, why do people do anything? Who in their right mind would look up to a – again, to use the Italian language – this [Italian phrase] like her? Who? How stupid could you be to swallow the crap coming out of these people's mouths? Oh no, I look up to little Chucky Schumer, I like Lindsey Graham, Peter Schiff – I mean, Adam Schiff. I like Peter Schiff. I didn't want to mix the two up.

Mike Adams:
Well, yeah, apologies to Peter Schiff right there. Just a slip of the tongue there. But we know what you're talking about.

But let me translate this, okay? I would say that people who don't heed your advice are going to lose everything that's left in dollars. And that's a strong statement, but I believe that it is.

Gerald Celente:
I believe it too. And again, you know, we're in – where we are heading for the worst of times. You know, we are going to head into an economic collapse, the likes of which we've never seen in human history.

But again, you mentioned – I just want to go back to it – you said that Russia may use a nuclear weapon. If the world goes nuclear, you know, they asked that cat that knew a thing or two about the atomic bomb – what's his name? Einstein. What kind of weapons will be used to fight the Third World War? He said, “I don't know, but they'll be using sticks and stones to fight the fourth.”

Mike Adams: That's right.

Gerald Celente:
This would be the end of life on Earth.

Gerald Celente:
You know, there's this great – it was John F. Kennedy's speech to the graduating students at American University in June of 1963. It's all about peace.

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And he goes on to say that no country suffered more during World War II than the Russians. And he talks about Operation Barbarossa, where Hitler killed over 20 million Russians – the number’s up to 25 million today, they report. And they lost their land, their factories, their homes – the equivalent of the Chicago east. He said, we don't want to go to war with them because if we do and there's an atomic exchange, life on Earth will end in 24 hours. That's 1963. And then five months later – JFK is dead – it was six months later. He was all about peace. At the end of his speech, he said America will never go to war again. Six months later, after he's dead, LBJ – LB Jerkoff over there – took us into the Vietnam War.

And before you were mentioning about migrants – very important. Again, all things are connected. That's when they started loosening the immigration laws. I'm Vietnam War-era draft meat. Every day, I used to wake up and go, “Are they going to get me? Are they going to get me?”

And by the way, I want to make this clear. I was stupid enough as a young guy to believe in the war. I even voted for Richard Nixon in 1968. Again, you learn – you keep learning and learning and learning and grow up. And the only reason I didn't go to the war is I didn't want to get killed. So I did everything I could to avoid the draft. So going back, they're drafting all the guys. They needed cheap labor. They needed more labor. That's when they loosened the first immigration laws.

Number two – and this is in my book, Trends 2000. It's an international bestseller. I wrote about, I talked before about the dot-com bust. The Internet revolution began like in the early '90s, around '93, '94. And they needed – they need employees, they need help, and people are asking for higher wages. They came up with this thing called H-1B visas, bringing in cheap labor from China and India. That was the other one.

Now, again making connections between different fields and how we got here, where we are going. When I was a young guy, there were grocery stores, hardware stores, stationery stores, drug stores. Now they're all chains – drug chains, supermarket chains, hardware chains. You go into any of the chain stores – go into any of them. “Help wanted, help wanted.” All we are is plantation workers of Slave-landia. We don't own our own businesses anymore. No mom-and-pops. So they need cheap labor. “Come on in, come on in, come on in.”

Mike Adams:
Like Tyson Foods announcing they're going to hire 40,000 migrants, while firing Americans.

Gerald Celente:
Yep. Germany: “We have a labor shortage, a shortage. And all the immigrants are good.” They want cheap labor. That's why they're bringing them in.

Mike Adams:
That's right. That's right. But let's talk about Europe actually for a second, because we only have a few minutes left. I want to be sure to cover this. Let me just remind our viewers, trendsjournal.com is the website where you can subscribe to Gerald Celente's Trends Journal. And without this, I think you will be lost in what's coming. Use discount code “ranger” to save 10%. And we are now an affiliate partner with Gerald Celente's organization. We are proud to support their journal, their knowledge, because this will save you. Again, it's what, less than $2.50 a week, which is nothing. If you find one tidbit in the Trends Journal that helps you make a good decision about saving your assets, you've paid for it a thousand times over. So trendsjournal.com, subscribe, use discount code “ranger”.

Let's talk about Macron and France, and how the West now appears to be realizing that Ukraine is not going to be able to defeat Russia after all. All the promises, all the secret weapons, everything – it was all BS. The situation looks dire for Ukraine. How do you think this goes from here, and what are the implications?

Gerald Celente:
There's gonna be a false flag event, just like you mentioned happened with the concert hall. They're gonna ramp it up. They're not going to quit. And again, go back to your Trends Journal, December… excuse me, February 22nd, two days before Russia invaded. Again, totally opposed against Russia invading Ukraine, totally understand why they did it.

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We said that there's no way in the world that Ukraine is going to defeat Russia if they go to war, and they should negotiate for peace. And again, make it clear. Once upon a time, there was a guy by the name of Napoleon Bonaparte that left Poland with 420,000 troops. There's this famous graph, by the way, that shows it. He gets to Moscow with 420,000 French troops, comes back with 10,000. Operation Barbarossa, launched by Hitler, kills over 25 million Russians, destroys the place. Who were the first ones to beat the Germans in World War II? Russia. So what they're going to do is they're going to have a false flag event that's going to keep this going. And again, World War III has begun, and if we don't have peace, it's going to be hell on earth. And again, little Macron, he's a little nothing of a boy. His polling ratings, like Scholz in Germany, Sunak in UK, they're all in the toilet. And they keep ramping up war talk.

Mike Adams:
It seems like they've completely lost touch with reality when you look at just the supply of munitions. In the UK, it's said that they could maybe last 10 days in a war with Russia before they run out. In Germany, a very similar situation. Their industrial production is kaput, appropriate term there, because of the Nord Stream pipeline destruction. Germany chose the wrong allies. Germany should have made Russia their ally, and they would have a thriving economy. Instead, they allied with America that destroyed their economy. How come German leaders don't realize this?

Gerald Celente:
Again, as I mentioned, you don't ask a crazy person why they're crazy.

Mike Adams:
OK, good point.

Gerald Celente:
These are… these are imbeciles. They're arrogant, narcissistic freaks, that's all they are. They're nobodies. Again, I've been on the other side. These… these are a bunch of little nothings with bad attitudes.

Mike Adams:
It's a suicide cult at the same time, right?

Gerald Celente:
You don't ask a crazy person why they're nuts. You know, you mentioned… we don't have a lot of time, but I really want to get… very important, one of our top trends for 2024. The banks are going to go bust. Here, these are a couple of headlines: S&P Global downgrades outlook on five regional U.S. banks to negative. Banks face $2 trillion wall of commercial property debt. Five banks have combined half-trillion dollars in commercial real estate loans. More failed banks and office building demolitions likely before real estate problems end. Federal agency study finds Wall Street mega banks have overstated income for years on commercial real estate. You ready? “New York City's delinquency property taxes soar. Overdue property taxes are forecast to reach the highest level ever, and the overall vacancy rate for Manhattan office space stood… it's now at 23%. You think that's bad? Take a trip over to Portland. 29%.

You look at some of the data, they're saying over in San Francisco, 30%. These are vacancy rates. Nobody there, nobody there, empty. What does the office occupancy rate… oh, 50.6%, according to Kastle Systems. What? You mean only 50% of the buildings are occupied with people? That's right. So now, how are the owners of the buildings going to pay their loans that are coming up with these trillions of dollars worth of debt that's coming due? They're not. They're not.

Mike Adams:
They’re not.

Gerald Celente:
282 banks, according to the latest study, are in deep trouble. Let's go back to last year around this time. Oh, it's Silicon Valley Bank busted. Oh, and then Signature Bank and First Republic, three banks. Now we're talking about 300. There's no way they're gonna bail them out. No way in the world. Goes back to gold, and it goes back to the equity markets. People don't realize how bad things are until the equity markets go down.

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Mike Adams:
Well, I remember last year when Silicon Valley Bank went down, there was this mass panic to buy gold and silver, retail gold and silver in the hands of the people. And I know you recall this too, Gerald. You've got a great memory. You couldn't get it. It was 60 days out, 90 days out. The pipeline of available gold and silver, it's so tiny that it was just one bank collapse back then that… that depleted the entire supply. Now you're talking about 280-plus bank failures that are likely to happen probably over the next 18 to 24 months, something in that window. What's this going to do to gold and silver?

Gerald Celente:
Again, that's why I said gold prices could double when… when the bank… nobody's talking about the details of the banking bust. Go back to your Trends Journal. We called an office building bust when they started locking down everybody. We warned that this was going to happen. It's very simple. People were staying home day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, and they're saying to themselves, “I was getting up at 5:00 in the morning to commute an hour and a half each way, wasting my life and money. I'm not doing it anymore.” I'm the guy that has… let's say 400 people in 12 stories or whatever, and they're all these little cubicles. “I don't see them anyway. Yes, stay home. I don't need all this space.” That's what's going on.

And… and now let's put it all together. You're foot traffic in Midtown Manhattan, it's down 33% from pre-COVID times. All the businesses that depended on commuters, going out of business. They're not coming anymore. And when they go into work, they're going Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. We used to have happy hour on Friday. Ain't happy times no more.

And by the way, where I am up in Kingston, this was the first capital of New York State and the third Dutch settlement. It’s flooding up out of the city, over 100,000 people estimated have left the city last year. They’re flooding up to the suburbs and exburb… they're getting out.

Again, I'm a city guy. You know, I mean, I… I know the old city. Even at the worst in the '70s, we were never afraid to go out. Now people are afraid to go out at night. You see women getting punched all the time, guys getting hit in the back of the head, people being thrown into subways, you know, one after another. This was not like this before. So even the New York City people, they want to get out of there. And the prices just for rent is still very high. Here's the number that just came out. Attacks in New York City transit, mass transit, jump 50%. 50%!

Mike Adams:
Well, now they've got the National Guard troops. Somehow they got the police. It's a police state now.

Gerald Celente:
Can you believe this is happening?

Mike Adams:
Random, unconstitutional searches of people's bags. I can't believe how many people are just going along with it. That's astonishing to me.

Gerald Celente:
88% of the people believed little Georgie Bush. “We're going to get that guy, Osama bin Laden, dead or alive.” My father, may he rest in peace, and I started learning… stuff, two things he told me. I'd repeat what I heard on the media, and he'd say to me in Italian, “Pappagallo, parrot. Stop repeating what everybody else is saying and think for yourself.” He’d talk to me in a very disgusting way.

And the other thing, when I started to learn, I said, “Pop,” I said, “how come people don't see this?” He said to me, “Son, people have little minds.” And, it goes back to Taylor Swift. Do I give a sh*t about Taylor Swift? I mean, it's one little clown after another that they keep talking about. Oh, these are celebrities. They don't pee or poop. They're celebrities. What celebrities? What are you talking about?

Oh, by the way, when I ran that major trade association, I put on a concert with Ella Fitzgerald, took over the Atlanta Convention Center, took over the Superdome, put on a concert with Dionne Warwick. And you're telling me about Taylor Swift? I mean, that's how low America's gone.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, yeah, it's… it's… it's not good. But you know, Gerald, this trend won't last forever. It's a very dark time. There are cycles of history, as you are well aware and you've written about extensively. There will be a day that we come out of this, and that's why I think it's crucial that the American people, those listening to this, recognize you're either going to come out of this with your sanity and your assets intact, or you're going to come out of this broken and broke. And the choice of how you navigate this is going to come down to getting access to good information to know what's coming. Trends Journal, man.

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Gerald Celente:
Thank you, but the real big issue here is that we have to unite for peace. I also launched Occupy Peace movement.

Mike Adams:
I remember that.

Gerald Celente:
World War III has begun. Again, if we don't have peace, it's going to be hell on earth. And… and so here's what my suggestions… Number one, and again, you know, you… you host Alex Jones. I do… I do a week there every week. I do a Monday for an hour.

“It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men,” said Samuel Adams. And we are that irate, tireless minority, and we're the ones that have to unite for the true meaning of the American spirit.

Mike Adams:
That's right.

Gerald Celente:
And number two, people ask me, “What can I do? What can I do?” Well, you're the Health Ranger. Get in the best shape you can physically, emotionally, and spiritually. You got to be in the best shape you can to be… I'm a warrior for the Prince of Peace. You know, I'm a fighter, and I'm fighting for peace, not violently. But also, you know, I don't know if you know this, but I had my own school. I taught close combat for many years.

Mike Adams:
I do know that. Yeah.

Gerald Celente:
So you know, I attacked the attacker. I don't look for fights. But what I'm saying is, you have to be in the best shape you can. And do something positive every day to help those who need help – in any way you can. And that, to me, is the way it can change.

And once upon a time, there was a thing called a Renaissance. In Italy, they used to say… Remember the Black Plague, some 60% of the people were wiped out. They realized how screwed up they were with the filth, the terrible sanitation. They said, “Alla romana, all'antica,” in the manner of the Romans and the ancients, to describe the quality of their work. We need a Renaissance to bring back the quality of America that used to be. And to me, that's what could change it. Art… the wonderful French girlfriend of mine, Marie-Pierre, used to say, “Art is the way of finding the true meaning of the human spirit.” And we have to bring back the true art of America, when jazz was jazz, when style was style, when hot was hot. That's what we need.

Mike Adams:
We're right there with you, Gerald, and we love you as a fellow American, a fellow human being, and we appreciate your contributions to this world and to our viewers. And I believe that history will judge you kindly for all the concerns that you have raised, the red flags, and helping people navigate through this. So I just want to thank you personally. I followed you for years, and you've impacted me as well, Gerald. Thank you so much.

Gerald Celente:
Thank you. Very kind of you. Thank you. And again, you know, they ask people what their legacy is going to be. I could give a… deal… my legacy. I'm dead. I don't care. I want to… again, as I said, I pulled a lot of crap in my life. You know, you learn about things as you grow up, and you can't stop learning. That's number one. I've never worked harder in my life. I try to learn as much as I can to do the best that I can, because I want to get out of here on a high note. Critical care nurses say the greatest regret of dying people is they didn't become the person they could have become. And I don't want to go out like that.

Mike Adams:
That's right. That's right. Well, and you won't. That's for sure. You are the person that you want to be, and we admire your work. So thank you so much. Let me just remind people again, trendsjournal.com is the website. You can subscribe, use discount code “ranger.” It'll save you 10% off the subscription to the journal. And Gerald, one last thing I just want to tell you. You know, we… we're… we're launching a reality-based large language model, an AI system, on brighton.ai. And this interview will go into training the AI. So there's going to be a little bit of your knowledge that's in the AI system. And I was testing it last night, and I was asking it about the MMT versus gold, and it was giving us an answer that almost sounded like you. So it's… it's really good. We've… we've finally managed to use AI for something that isn't evil. But anyway…

Gerald Celente:
As I said, we called the dotcom bust. And people ask me about the AI. I said, “No, no. Trends are born, they grow, they mature, reach old age and die. AI has just been born. This thing's going to keep going, like it or not, the good, the bad, the ugly of it. It's going to keep going.”

Mike Adams:
Yeah, we're just trying to use it to give people access to reality-based knowledge, all kinds of topics, from geoengineering and GMOs and vaccines and, you name it. Anyway, we're out of time, Gerald. I'd love to have you back again soon. This has been a real delight to speak with you today. Thank you for taking the time with us. We honor that.

Gerald Celente:
Thank you, and I honor all you're doing, as I'm honored to be on with you. Thank you.

Mike Adams:
The pleasure is all mine. Thank you so much. Take care, Gerald, and have a great day. And for those of you watching, again, Gerald Celente, oh, just truly a living legend here in… in America. His website, again, trendsjournal.com. Use discount code Ranger to get 10% off the subscription. Help support his efforts, Gerald, as well as our platform, as we are now an affiliate with Trends Journal. Hope you learned something useful today. There's a lot more. We'll have Gerald back with some updates as events get crazy and as gold probably passes 2300 and then 2400 and 2500 and keeps going. It's going to be an interesting year, for sure, especially with oil prices and what's happening with Iran. So thank you for watching today. I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com. God bless you all. Take care.

SUMMARY
Here is a summary of the key points from the interview:

• Mike Adams welcomes Gerald Celente to the show, praising him as an incredibly knowledgeable advocate for American ideals, arts and culture. Celente laments the decline of New York and the U.S. under poor political leadership.

• Celente is critical of politicians overreaching their authority, such as NYC mayors Eric Adams and Bill de Blasio. He says the U.S. claims to bring freedom abroad while stealing it from citizens at home.

• As a young man, Celente worked in NY politics but became disillusioned by the behavior he witnessed, like men groveling to advance their careers. He mentions meeting Ronald Reagan in 1976.

• Celente publishes Trends Journal magazine, providing in-depth geopolitical and socioeconomic analysis and forecasts without propaganda. His trend forecasting abilities emerged when he correctly predicted the implications of the 1979 Iran revolution and profited from gold and oil investments.

• Trends Journal has been warning about escalating Middle East conflicts, especially between Israel, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. Celente predicts oil prices spiking above $130/barrel if Israel-Iran hostilities worsen. Gold prices are also at record highs amid these tensions.

• Mike Adams promotes a discount code for listeners to subscribe to Celente's Trends Journal. He praises Celente's track record of accurate predictions based on data analysis and experience.

• Celente warns we are in the most dangerous times of our lives and people need to prepare. He predicts a coming banking crisis that few are talking about in detail.

• Celente has long warned about the risk of World War III, citing a 2014 Trends Journal article about U.S. meddling in Ukraine. He says the 2014 coup was driven by Ukraine backing out of an IMF/EU deal in favor of a better offer from Putin.

• Celente warns that a nuclear war would be the end of life on Earth, quoting Einstein's famous saying about WWIV being fought with sticks and stones.

• Celente quotes JFK's 1963 speech about the devastating human toll of WWII on Russia and the existential threat of nuclear war. JFK advocated peace but was assassinated shortly after.

• He notes how immigration laws were loosened during the Vietnam War draft to bring in cheap labor, a trend that continued with H-1B visas in the 90s tech boom. Celente laments the loss of small businesses to corporate chains always seeking cheaper workers.

• Celente recalls his father's wisdom about thinking for oneself rather than parroting the media, and how “people have little minds” to explain the public's gullibility. He bemoans the endless celebrity culture distractions from serious issues.

• He advocates for a new Renaissance to revive the best qualities of America, from the arts to personal character. Celente's French girlfriend used to say “art is the way of finding the true meaning of the human spirit.”

• Adams thanks Celente for his many contributions and positive impact over the years, believing history will judge him kindly for raising crucial warnings and helping people navigate difficult times.

• Celente humbly states he doesn't care about his legacy, only that he's worked hard to keep learning and doing his best so he doesn't leave this life with regrets. He cites the common deathbed regret of not having become the person one could have been.

• Adams mentions his company's upcoming launch of an AI system trained in part on this interview, aiming to use the technology to spread reality-based knowledge. Celente notes that AI is still in its infancy and will keep advancing for better or worse.

• The two express mutual respect and appreciation for each other's work before concluding the interview.